The SWC Xtreme Cone 160 Reviewed
Lots of people are going nutzo about all the new cone skimmers coming out and I got my hands on one (and I wanted to go plus one) to see if all the hype was justified.
To give you some background, I run a 90 gallon mixed reef tank that is medium stocked with:
– 1x 5″ Purple Tang
– 1x 4″ Pink Spot Goby
– 1x 3″ Bicolor Blenny
– 1x 2″ Green Chromis
– 1x 2.5″ Bengai Cardinal fish
– 1x 3″ White Stripe Maroon Clownfish
– 1x 1.5″ 6-line wrasse
I feed one time a day and only enough that the fish can eat in 1 min or less. Previously I was running a Vertex IN-100 skimmer that is rated up to 100 gallon tank.
First Impressions
My first thought on opening the shipping box was that the skimmer is extremely compact. With a 9″x7″ footprint, the skimmer looks like a streamlined machine ready for action. Even better, it comes fully assembled in the box so all you have to do is take it out of the box, check for broken parts and you’re ready to put it in your tank. Protein skimmers aren’t hard to assemble, but there is that instant gratification that comes with “no assembly required”. So far, I’m a happy reef junkie.
Something else that caught my eye was that the skimmer comes with a gate valve that adjusts the flow of water leaving
the skimmer. Most skimmers have a wedge pipe that you have to twist to adjust the output flow, which are o.k., but they are hard to make small adjustments with – something that will be needed when you want to fine tune your skimmer. Another bonus point for the gate valve and 5 bonus points for positioning the turn knob of the gate valve ABOVE the water line so that I don’t have to get my hands wet when I want to adjust the skimmer.
The skimmer also has an adjustment (above the water line..woohoo!) for air intake as well. The instructions say that this valve is used to make the small bubbles, which supposively make for a stronger skimmer. Hmm..I’m not sold on that idea. I wouldn’t want to restrict the air going into my skimmer in any way. For now, I’m leaving it open and ignorning it.
Getting the Skimmer Wet
Since the skimmer has a compact footprint (9″x7″), getting it to fit in my sump was a snap. I didn’t have to rearrange my phosphate reactor and I didn’t have to modify my sump to get the skimmer to fit. My grin is getting bigger.
After submerging the skimmer, I found a drawback – the powercord is a bit on the short side. I’d judge it to be about 4 feet long, which isn’t bad, but another foot to two feet of length would be nice. The last thing I want to do is have to extend the powercord myself, or re-arrange my wiring work just to get a power outlet to my skimmer. A minor detail, but one that could be a pain depending on your setup.
I knew SWC used an Atman 2500 pump on this skimmer, which isn’t a bad pump, but it’s no Red Dragon Pump either. Granted the Atman was probably used to keep price down, I was anticipating some level of noise coming from the pump as it wasn’t the top of the line brand. After I plugged in the skimmer, I was happy to say that the pump is very, very quiet and certainly wasn’t any louder than my Vertex’s pump. Once plugged in, I could not pick out the sound of the skimmer from the other noises (return pump, water coming down from my tank) in my sump.
The Atman pump is quiet and gaving rubber feet on the bottom of the skimmer housing also helps insulate any noise that might be caused by the pump. Noisy skimmers are a pet peeve of mine and this skimmer certainly passes the noise test with flying colors. 5 more bonus points.
Ok, but how does it skim?
The SWC is gaining points, but I’m still not sold on the whole “cone is better” idea just yet. I’ll to see how much skimmate it pulls out of my tank to really believe the hype.
After 24 hrs, the skimmer broke in and started skimming. I prefer a wet skim, meaning that I like more liquid in my skimmate vs. a skimmate that pulls out solid pieces of waste from my tank. I had high expectations from this skimmer as my tank is medium stocked and if these cone skimmers were really all they were cracked up to be, then it was going to have to pull out some serious funk to make me a believer.
Within 24 hrs, the skimmer had not only broken in, but had pulled out a serious amount of skimmate, including some solid pieces of who-knows-what that smelled horrible. I emptied out the first collection of skimmate and moved on to give the skimmer the oil test.
The what?
The oil test. Protein skimmers build up a head of foam to skim off the funk from your tank.However, when you feed your fish or corals, or stick your hands in your tank, oils in the food, or on your skin are released, change the surface tension of the water and knock down the foam head in your skimmer. Good skimmers take a short period of time to rebuild their head, cheaper skimmer take longer – sometimes up to 5 hours. Longer foam head build-up = less time the skimmer is pulling nasty things from your tank. Since cone skimmers are supposed to build a denser, stronger foam head due to the decreasing radius of the neck of the skimmer, I expected this skimmer to quickly build back its foam head.
I fed my fish some High Performance Diet (HPD) food that would completely knock down the head of foam on my vertex skimmer to see how the SWC would fare on the oil test.
The result: Like my Vertex skimmer, the foam head was completely knocked down. Not surprising. However, unlike my Vertex, the SWC built back its foam head in about an hour and a half. The vertex would take a good two hours. I expected a faster rebuild of the foam head, and an hour and a half is a respectable time. 2 bonus points for the oil test.
The next 72 hrs, I emptied the collection cup 2 times as the skimmer was busy pulling out skimmate, I even dialed back the skimmer to get a drier skimmate, but the skimmer kept pulling out junk at its same pace. Needless to say, I’m impressed.
So, should I buy one?
If you are a reef junkie or reef enthuiast, yes. If you are a tank dabbler, stick with the traditional non-cone skimmers, like the Vertex – the performance for the cost won’t be worth it for you.
The SWC 160 impressed me with its small footprint, quiet operation and strong skimming ability. For the price ($290 shipped), I think it is well priced and gives you a lot of bang for your buck.
This skimmer will be my main skimmer so I’ll write more in a couple of months with my long-term impressions.
Browse the Store! Questions?
I like the cones mainly b/c they usually totally disassemble easily for cleaning.
Thanks Mark how does this look
http://www.goreef.com/Reef-Octopus-NWB-200-In-Sump-PinWheel-Protein-Skimmer-250-Gallon.html
a good choice. make sure it will fit in your sump!
Hello, when you say 9″x7″ footprint does that mean that include the plumbing? my sump compartment is a12″X8″ and i’m, wondering if it will fit in there?
Do you ship to Canada? M3C1L6 Toronto Ontario?
Mark…
So now that you’ve had the skimmer set up for a while do you still love it. I was wondering if you could give an opinion on what I’ve been hearing about that skimmer. That it uses mesh type impeller and that they clog? One guy says that he has to blow thru the tube to get the pump to start back up after turning it off. I’m about to buy my first skimmer and need advise. Thanks
Randy…I haven’t used this skimmer in over a year as I tore down my 90g tank when I moved. When I used the skimmer it worked well and rarely had restart issues that required blowing in the tube. I found that when I had to blow in the tube, it usually meant the pump needed to be cleaned.
Mark… thanks for the speedy reply. (Good PR) So knowing what you do now about what’s currently available, what skimmer would you buy if you were just setting up your 90. I’m starting a new build and new enough to the hobby that an experienced response would be greatly appreciated. I don’t want to make a bad decision on such a costly piece of equipment.
Randy…
Randy…I’d still use the SWC 160. I setup a 90g tank for a client last year and used the exact skimmer
Hi Mark, I was thinking about getting the swc 180 cone skimmer. I read in one of your previous comments that you did not like any of the skimmers above the 160. I was just wondering why as I was almost set on getting the 180. My tank is 125 gal. with about 100 lbs. live rock (adding more later) no corals though two pieces of rock had zooanthid colonies growing on them. Fish are 6 blue green chromis, blue damsel, moon wrasse, maroon clown, stripped damsel, golden domino damsel (the last two are six years old didn’t know any better then). Adding yellow tang and hippo tang after quarantine in two weeks. Sorry if this comment was too long. Thanks for your time Mark, much appreciated.
Guy….the SWC 180 is powered by the sicce 2500 pump which is a horrible pump. Avoid it at all costs.
Wow thanks for the heads up Mark. Wanted to go plus 1 which is why I targeted the 180 and thought the 160 was a little too small. Which other skimmer or skimmers do you suggest. The skimmer section is 15×14 inches. Thanks again Mark.
Hey Mark,
How many days did it take to get that amount of skimmate? (In the picture)
Lucas- about 2-3 I think. I did that video a long time ago.
Mark, the shaft of my SWC (which is plastic) broke, can you direct me to a source for replacement parts? Cheers, Robt
what is that hose that you have coming out of the air regulator part. pardon my ignorance on that one.
andy i think the tube u asked about is to blow in to start the bubbles when you power the skimmer up
Hi mark,
I’m fairly new to the hobby just about a year now. I am about to add a 20 gallon sump to my 29 gallon reef. The skimmer section is 12×9. I am upgrading later this year to a 56 gallon reef tank. I am about to upgrade the skimmer to an in sump and was interested in the SWC models. I was wondering if you thought a 120 model would be good enough or if I should splurge and get the 160. Also will the 160 model fit that skimmer section
hey mark, the 120 would be more than enough for a 56 gallon.
the 160 would fit with the dimensions you provided.
Mark, do you still offer the SWC160 for sale? Having trouble finding them online.
Jeff…I’m not a SWC reseller so I don’t offer the skimmer. I believe SWC was bought out by another company as the skimmer, or replacement parts are no longer available.